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Post by 77bengal on Sept 14, 2017 19:43:24 GMT -5
First series: Three penalties! This team is so undisciplined. Lewis needs to quit telling the players to "just do their job" until he starts doing his.
Lewis' three-headed running back attack will never work. What in the hell is the matter with him. I know - no balls! He can't bring himself to sit Hill and give Mixon the majority of the carries. Folks, Lewis is a terrible, terrible coach and there are a lot of coaches out there that could do far better.
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Post by 77bengal on Sept 14, 2017 20:02:50 GMT -5
Fumble Ross. NO DISCIPLINE! This team will never challenge for a Super Bowl until Brown and Lewis are out of the picture. The Bengals have a lot of talent, but not enough to go into Foxboro in the playoffs and seriously challenge for a win. Zeitler to Cleveland? What happened to 'We're going to resign our great players'? This is a clueless organization and it will never improve until Brown is gone. Lets just hope that Browns penny-pinching ways hasn't rubbed off on his family.
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Post by Rodneck on Sept 14, 2017 22:37:20 GMT -5
Well I just see a continuous negativity carrying over from last season. I hate Mike Brown. I hate our head coache and all his staff(minus Tobin). I love a lot of our players. But Barring a miracle comeback I think I'm about done with this team again for this season. What if they did come back and make the postseason? Another predictable L? I soured on Lewis after 2015. Until he is gone I have only a passing curiosity and interest in this team. Cincinnati sports is dead.
Guess we'll try again with both teams in 2018.................
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Post by 77bengal on Sept 14, 2017 22:38:18 GMT -5
So; you guys had enough? The Bengals could swap teams with the Patriots and Lewis would find a way to screw it up. HE'S NOT HEAD COACH MATERIAL! I knew this after his first three or four seasons and here we are 15 years later discussing his incompetence. But the main reason this team is still a laughing stock is because of Mike Brown. He's responsible for retaining Lewis, not signing Zeitler and other great players and every other thing that goes haywire in Bengaldom. I think it's time we fans unite and start contacting the commissioner about giving Brown an ultimatum. Either pull your head out of your ass and run your team responsibly, or you'll be forced out!
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Post by Rodneck on Sept 14, 2017 22:39:00 GMT -5
77 totally agree with both of your posts. This is beyond frustrating.
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Post by 77bengal on Sept 14, 2017 22:40:16 GMT -5
Well I just see a continuous negativity carrying over from last season. I hate Mike Brown. I hate our head coache and all his staff(minus Tobin). I love a lot of our players. But Barring a miracle comeback I think I'm about done with this team again for this season. What if they did come back and make the postseason? Another predictable L? I soured on Lewis after 2015. Until he is gone I have only a passing curiosity and interest in this team. Cincinnati sports is dead. Guess we'll try again with both teams in 2018................. I feel ya' brother. I was hoping that all those talking heads that predicted great things for our team in the preseason knew something that I didn't. Guess they don't.
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Post by 77bengal on Sept 14, 2017 22:41:00 GMT -5
77 totally agree with both of your posts. This is beyond frustrating. It's 1993 all over again. On second thought, it may be worse. That team didn't have much talent. This team is loaded with talent yet they don't play like it. Also, the offensive line isn't doing a terrible job. Dalton is one of the worse, if not the worse QB at throwing on the run and his pocket presence is horrific. Like I've posted for years, Dalton runs INTO trouble (defenders) instead of away from them. It's so bad I've debated whether or not he's color blind.
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Post by Rodneck on Sept 14, 2017 22:49:19 GMT -5
So; you guys had enough? The Bengals could swap teams with the Patriots and Lewis would find a way to screw it up. HE'S NOT HEAD COACH MATERIAL! I knew this after his first three or four seasons and here we are 15 years later discussing his incompetence. But the main reason this team is still a laughing stock is because of Mike Brown. He's responsible for retaining Lewis, not signing Zeitler and other great players and every other thing that goes haywire in Bengaldom. I think it's time we fans unite and start contacting the commissioner about giving Brown and ultimatum. Either pull your head out of your ass and run your team responsibly, or you'll be forced out! I think it's even worse than that! I said a few years ago you could take a Pro Bowl team and put them under this setup and they'd still be mediocre. Even when you force yourself to not watch, you are still pissed off from September til the season is over. The reality of this team just totally fuckin sucks!
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Post by Rodneck on Sept 14, 2017 22:54:54 GMT -5
77 totally agree with both of your posts. This is beyond frustrating. It's 1993 all over again. On second thought, it may be worse. That team didn't have much talent. This team is loaded with talent yet they don't play like it. Also, the offensive line isn't doing a terrible job. Dalton is one of the worse, if not the worse QB at throwing on the run and his pocket presence is horrific. Like I've posted for years, Dalton runs INTO trouble (defenders) instead of away from them. It's so bad I've debated whether or not he's color blind. You're right. We said it in the offseason that since we are in a mini rebuild=trade Dalton and start over with a new head coach and staff. I would be totally on board if that had transpired. This shit. Just looking at M. Lewis I just absolutely loathe the Bengals under this setup. Plus right on the heels of yet another long losing Reds season and playing the horses all year, I get major sports burnout. So taking a break when there is nothing but negativity on the table is actually pretty easy for me. This is just a damn shame. The home team could be lifting our spirits right now or at least doing the smart thing and doing a partial rebuild. Nothing of either sort...arrgghhh.....!!!!!!!
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Post by 77bengal on Sept 14, 2017 23:53:42 GMT -5
The media is going to bring up the possibility of starting McCarron. But I'm sure Lewis will knock that idea down instantly with his ever popular cat grin. Lewis owes the fans an explanation of what's going on besides the moniker 'we didn't execute'. We're tired of him hiding non-important info from us. Info that isn't going to change the outcome of any game one iota.
Here's what needs to happen: 1) Insert Joe Mixon as the teams starting running back and get rid of this three-headed running back by committee scheme.
2) Insert AJ McCarron as the teams starting QB. Dalton looks terrible even when he's not under pressure. A change is needed.
3) John Ross, Jordan Willis, Carl Lawson, Chris Smith, Ryan Glasgow, Andrew Billings and Jordan Evans should be moved to starting roles or at least get a lot of snaps per game. This season is more than likely over, so getting all the young guys a lot of playing time this year so the team is stronger next year is the right approach. And that goes for the other young players on the team such as Darqueze Dennard. The team needs to know what they have and what they don't have prior to next years draft.
4) Fire Lewis at the end of the season.
5) Draft a QB in round one or two along with as many o-linemen as possible.
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Post by clinz on Sept 15, 2017 6:12:43 GMT -5
The media is going to bring up the possibility of starting McCarron. But I'm sure Lewis will knock that idea down instantly with his ever popular cat grin. Lewis owes the fans an explanation of what's going on besides the moniker 'we didn't execute'. We're tired of him hiding non-important info from us. Info that isn't going to change the outcome of any game one iota. Here's what needs to happen: 1) Insert Joe Mixon as the teams starting running back and get rid of this three-headed running back by committee scheme. 2) Insert AJ McCarron as the teams starting QB. Dalton looks terrible even when he's not under pressure. A change is needed. 3) John Ross, Jordan Willis, Carl Lawson, Chris Smith, Ryan Glasgow, Andrew Billings and Jordan Evans should be moved to starting roles or at least get a lot of snaps per game. This season is more than likely over, so getting all the young guys a lot of playing time this year so the team is stronger next year is the right approach. And that goes for the other young players on the team such as Darqueze Dennard. The team needs to know what they have and what they don't have prior to next years draft. 4) Fire Lewis at the end of the season. 5) Draft a QB in round one or two along with as many o-linemen as possible. I agree 100%. I could see Lewis getting fired but Brown will retain all other coaches that are still under contract. Zampeze is in way over his head. So a new head coach would be brought in and can't bring in his own staff. A big fail right off the bat. We're doomed until Brown is completely out of the picture. I'm don't have entire confidence in the future endeavors of this franchise.
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Post by lostwou on Sept 15, 2017 9:55:08 GMT -5
From what I can see. I agree with a lot of what you say. As for the OL, Jake Fisher is TERRIBLE! He gets beat every down! Zampese needs to go period! Running back by committee does not work! You have to keep a back in there so they can get the flow of the game!
When will he learn Jeremy Hill is not fast enough to run outside? And how and why would you come up with an offensive game plan that doesn't implement Eifert? They went to him on two plays. One pass over the middle and a screen. You gain 5 yards on 1st down run and you want to pass on 2nd and 3rd when the line can't pass block?
They desperately need an OL and an OC. Pull Jake Fisher and put Andre Smith back at RT. It appears to me the offense is totally confused on what to do and unorganized. Theres no excuse for how they are playing. They have the players. But its like they are all on a different page. They aren't playing together. I agree time for ML to go. Hell its past time. My only fear is who they wud bring in to replace him.
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Post by 77bengal on Sept 15, 2017 14:52:52 GMT -5
From what I can see. I agree with a lot of what you say. As for the OL, Jake Fisher is TERRIBLE! He gets beat every down! Zampese needs to go period! Running back by committee does not work! You have to keep a back in there so they can get the flow of the game! When will he learn Jeremy Hill is not fast enough to run outside? And how and why would you come up with an offensive game plan that doesn't implement Eifert? They went to him on two plays. One pass over the middle and a screen. You gain 5 yards on 1st down run and you want to pass on 2nd and 3rd when the line can't pass block? They desperately need an OL and an OC. Pull Jake Fisher and put Andre Smith back at RT. It appears to me the offense is totally confused on what to do and unorganized. Theres no excuse for how they are playing. They have the players. But its like they are all on a different page. They aren't playing together. I agree time for ML to go. Hell its past time. My only fear is who they wud bring in to replace him. The offensive line isn't that good, but they're not as bad as what's being reported. They have faced two of the better defenses in the league which includes Terrell Suggs and three-time Defensive MVP JJ Watt. In time, these guys will play better if they stay injury free. OT Jake Fisher isn't great, but his play continues to improve. The only rusher he had problems with was the aforementioned Watt but who doesn't? Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis aside, the main problems on offense is the scheme and/or game plan (Zampese), running back by committee and the QB. Considering how young and inexperienced the o-line is, why wasn't an offensive game plan put in place that would help alleviate this problem? A short passing game with quick reads and passes was the common sense approach. Dalton has one of the worst QB ratings in the league when forced to scramble. Putting him behind this line is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. It's not gonna work and the coaches should have known this from the get-go! This is why AJ McCarron should be installed as the teams starter. Keeping Dalton in the role of team starter will do nothing to fire this team up. They will continue to play uninspired - hum drum football. By inserting McCarron, the players and we fans have something to look forward to and this alone should raise the level of play on both sides of the ball. Bottomline; the Bengals are headed into Green Bay to take on the Packers and Aaron Rodgers and the chances of Dalton leading this team to a victory is slim to none. But with McCarron, there's hope.
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Post by 77bengal on Sept 15, 2017 15:06:17 GMT -5
Joe Mixon was so frustrated by constantly being pulled out of the game, he started shaking his head in disgust. A RB can't get nothing going by being removed from the game play after play. They need to stay in there and get the bulk of the carries to have success.
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Post by lostwou on Sept 15, 2017 15:45:26 GMT -5
77 I noticed too Mixon was frustrated. he wanted in there and should have been. The time I saw him shake his head was when they ran Hill to the outside and got no where. You KNOW he was thinking that play should have gone to me!
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