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Post by davis44 on Jun 16, 2017 20:53:37 GMT -5
Well on his way to his 6th or 7th (not sure which) DOUBLE DIGIT losing streak!! Or maybe it's just 9+.....but this is beyond ridiculous!!
Cut the damn cord!!
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Post by claycc on Jun 16, 2017 21:20:01 GMT -5
They've went on these long losing streaks (10+) under previous managers, including your beloved Dusty. Can't blame it all on the manager(s). This organization is soft-headed from the top to the bottom. They've done it for a long time. They play day-to-day like its just business as usual. If they fail, they just say "that's OK, we'll go back at it tomorrow." There are not enough people in this organization that will get pissed off about losing. Its just another day to them.
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Post by FoulBalz on Jun 16, 2017 22:24:50 GMT -5
Clay ... I agree
And the fans are taking the same lackadaisical approach
I went to this game.. free tics.. and it was boring
Reds fans sit on their ass no enthusiasm
I guess we are waiting for 2020 and beyond
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Post by FoulBalz on Jun 16, 2017 22:27:46 GMT -5
Get good pitching but hitting sucks
Good hitting but lose 10 -6
Frustrating to real fans who seem to care
I get it. Like someone said. Lose 90 again and we get a good draft pic who should help us in 2021
Glad I am not paying to see it
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Post by davis44 on Jun 16, 2017 22:35:15 GMT -5
They've went on these long losing streaks (10+) under previous managers, including your beloved Dusty. Can't blame it all on the manager(s). This organization is soft-headed from the top to the bottom. They've done it for a long time. They play day-to-day like its just business as usual. If they fail, they just say "that's OK, we'll go back at it tomorrow." There are not enough people in this organization that will get pissed off about losing. Its just another day to them. Pretty sure Price has set the record for losing streaks. Look it up. |
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Post by Rodneck on Jun 17, 2017 6:52:24 GMT -5
I think we are seeing a combination of things. Bullpen innings are catching up as their losses pile up. And the continuous starter ERA reaching Reds record highs is demoralizing the team. There was a slight regression due in the offense but not this bad. Another game like last night and this will make the 5th of 6th series where we have hit below .240. That is not who this team is as an offense. They are playing listless baseball after playing some very inspired ball most of the season. And that is where I definitely agree with Davis. The mentality of the team is on Price. This is the second 7 game losing streak of the season that started on the west coast. Repeat patterns are a manager's fault if he can't reign it in.
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Post by claycc on Jun 17, 2017 7:35:32 GMT -5
OK, I did look it up. And I recognizing the fact that I'm having to correct myself with my research. But my research is showing that you were clearly off the mark as well.
Dusty Baker with the Reds... 0 losing streaks of 10 or more while he was manager. That's right. I said it... ZERO.
Bryan Price with the Reds... 2 losing streaks of 10 or more while he has been manager. That's TWO. ONE... TWO.
Baker was manager as the team was being built up into a contender.
Price has managed while that team has been dismantled.
Who can really blame it on Price? He has had less to work with every year and has still not done nearly as bad as you originally made it out to be.
Bottom line is... we've witnessed in the past that this team is soft and extremely weak on basic fundamentals. A manager shouldn't have to take the reigns of this team only to have to teach the players how to perform common sense basics on the field. They should already know that before they work their way up through the minors. But history has shown us that a LOT of boneheaded players manage to make it up through the ranks and embarrass themselves, the organization, and die-hard Reds fans with far too much frequency on the big league level.
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Post by davis44 on Jun 17, 2017 8:16:21 GMT -5
OK, I did look it up. And I recognizing the fact that I'm having to correct myself with my research. But my research is showing that you were clearly off the mark as well. Dusty Baker with the Reds... 0 losing streaks of 10 or more while he was manager. That's right. I said it... ZERO. Bryan Price with the Reds... 2 losing streaks of 10 or more while he has been manager. That's TWO. ONE... TWO. Baker was manager as the team was being built up into a contender. Price has managed while that team has been dismantled. Who can really blame it on Price? He has had less to work with every year and has still not done nearly as bad as you originally made it out to be. Bottom line is... we've witnessed in the past that this team is soft and extremely weak on basic fundamentals. A manager shouldn't have to take the reigns of this team only to have to teach the players how to perform common sense basics on the field. They should already know that before they work their way up through the minors. But history has shown us that a LOT of boneheaded players manage to make it up through the ranks and embarrass themselves, the organization, and die-hard Reds fans with far too much frequency on the big league level. Actually, Price was hired to take this team to the next level of the Playoffs in 2014; he finished 10 games under .500. He then led them to the toilet by mid-season, 2015....hence the rebuild. While I may have been slightly off numerically.... He has 4 9+ game losing streaks, and is currently sitting on 7. In association with those 4, was 13 out of 14 TWICE, a 14 out of 15, and a 10 out of 11. Not in association with those is an 8 out 9, and a 9 out 10. My point is,when is enough, enough?? I realize there are pitching injuries, but it's time to bring in a mgr who can actually enact a rebuild. In the late 90s they brought in Trader Jack, a well experienced man for the job....it didn't take him very long to get things turned around. This side and pony show with Price and the rest of this incompetent coaching staff needs to come to an end. |
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Post by claycc on Jun 17, 2017 12:22:07 GMT -5
Oh, I agree that he's not the man for the job. But this organization has more problems than the manager. This organization produces/acquires players that are missing something between the ears and/or between their legs. Especially the pitching. How do you give up multiple homer games to the lightest hitters in opposing lineups on what seems like such a consistent basis?? How do you consistently groove fastballs down the middle of the plate when the bases are jacked (thank God that Hoover is gone!)? Does Thames from the Brewers have more than 3 homers against teams other than the Reds? (But yet, another Reds-Brewers series might put him back among the league leaders for homers again.) This shit continues to happen and all you can really do is question the mental makeup of those involved. But this shit should have been addressed before they were ever put on Price's roster or very quickly removed when the painful truth was realized.
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Post by forty on Jun 17, 2017 16:47:54 GMT -5
I hope the players are demoralized, I know I sure the hell am. Sweep 4 on the cards and come one game within 500 and then lose at least 8 in a row. WTF.
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Post by Rodneck on Jun 17, 2017 20:16:09 GMT -5
They have a plan. Tank. Then turn it on like a light switch. After all they are only in their 2nd decade of ownership. We got all the time in the world. Maybe we will be contenders when we are nearing the grave!
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Post by vb1123 on Jun 17, 2017 20:41:25 GMT -5
Winning this season is not a reality for the front office, period. If it were, Price's idiot arse would be GONE, like last season. They've really been caught w/ their pants down and punted on this season before April was halfway done. Yes, Price has been handcuffed by the front office and the porcelain players who are always one bad game from shutting it down for a season. That doesn't excuse his shitty managing. Pretty depressing overall picture if you're a fan.
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Post by Rodneck on Jun 17, 2017 22:57:10 GMT -5
Winning this season is not a reality for the front office, period. If it were, Price's idiot arse would be GONE, like last season. They've really been caught w/ their pants down and punted on this season before April was halfway done. Yes, Price has been handcuffed by the front office and the porcelain players who are always one bad game from shutting it down for a season. That doesn't excuse his shitty managing. Pretty depressing overall picture if you're a fan. Might put that statement up as the board headline "Caught with their pants down..". This is a collaboration. It takes faith between all parts for it to work, not just talent. A lesson this management has not endeavored to learn. At all. They've got a vision $$$. But not a vision. |
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Post by davis44 on Jun 24, 2017 16:43:22 GMT -5
Looks like today will be his 3rd streak of 13 losses in 14 games!!
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Post by flaredleg on Jun 24, 2017 23:52:32 GMT -5
This ass beating was legendary! I read where the orioles broke a record from 1914 by giving up more than 5 runs a game for 20 straight. How is that not our record!
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