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Post by 77bengal on Apr 30, 2017 23:01:51 GMT -5
Yeah what do you guys and gals think? I'm looking for an inlet to park my excited boat in but... Where ya at with this team gang? I wanted them to add two pass rushers, two fast WR's, RB Joe Mixon, a kicker, a LB and DT depth. Another words, I like their draft. I also wanted them to add one of the top TE's but they didn't. But they did get a developmental one late. Nice draft. Here's the problem. They have a lot of question marks up front on the o-line. If they don't get this fixed, the offense and every playmaker on it will suffer. So, between now and training camp, the Bengals need to scour the waiver wire for veteran (rookie?) o-line help. Ogbuehi and Fisher on the ends with Bodine in the middle teamed with an oft injured Smith at RG could doom this offense and the team. Improving the o-line is paramount to success and if they need to trade McCarron to make it happen, then they should do so. |
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Post by chocowinity on May 1, 2017 13:20:29 GMT -5
Most polls give the Bengals a B+. However, it is sometimes like a crap shoot. Geno Atkins was 4th round pick. Look at the 6th round pick for Quarterback last year for the Cowboys. Having said that I agree with 77. The OL scares me. If Dalton cannot get protection the defense will move up in spite of the speed of Ross/Green and this will also hinder the run game.
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Post by redsfan4life on May 1, 2017 17:21:01 GMT -5
Well if they are serious then they will sign a couple O-lineman or make a trade for at least one.
Like everyone said the O-line is my biggest concern. Dalton and Mccaron will both be down and on IR with this current line.
I have read that this year's draft was weak in O-lineman. I have no idea if that is true or not. Just read a few tidbits from different sports sites that was making that claim.
If that is true I guess it is good that the Bengals didn't use early round picks for a O-lineman.
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Post by 77bengal on May 1, 2017 21:30:12 GMT -5
Most polls give the Bengals a B+. However, it is sometimes like a crap shoot. Geno Atkins was 4th round pick. Look at the 6th round pick for Quarterback last year for the Cowboys. Having said that I agree with 77. The OL scares me. If Dalton cannot get protection the defense will move up in spite of the speed of Ross/Green and this will also hinder the run game. The o-line is where it's at. Not signing Zeitler could really come back to haunt this club. Franchising Zeitler for one year would have also been a good move by giving the Bengals time to find his replacement. Imagine if Andre Smith goes down at RG which is very possible. That would leave Bodine and Hopkins(?) Johnson(?) protecting the middle. That's very troublesome. Our best hope is that the o-line stays healthy and about four of the teams o-linemen have drastically improved. Trading McCarron and scanning the waiver wire is the teams only hope at this point. Minus the non-resigning of Zeitler, I don't blame the Bengals for not adding any o-linemen high in this draft. This was a very weak o-line class and with so many other needs on the table and a plethora of great players to fill those needs such as WR, DE, and RB, it doesn't make sense to overdraft an o-linemen that may not be that big of an improvement over a player the Bengals already have on the roster. And lets not forget about Christian Westerman. He may be ready but I'm not holding my breath. |
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Post by 77bengal on May 1, 2017 21:45:19 GMT -5
Well if they are serious then they will sign a couple O-lineman or make a trade for at least one. Like everyone said the O-line is my biggest concern. Dalton and Mccaron will both be down and on IR with this current line. I have read that this year's draft was weak in O-lineman. I have no idea if that is true or not. Just read a few tidbits from different sports sites that was making that claim. If that is true I guess it is good that the Bengals didn't use early round picks for a O-lineman. It's true. Really weak OL class. No reason to reach for one when there's so much talent at other positions. I think it's also important to note that even if the Bengals fortify their o-line, don't expect this team to come crashing out of the gate early. The Bengals have made a lot of moves and they're going to be relying on a lot of young players. It's going to take a chunk of the season, maybe the whole season and another draft, to get these guys familiar with one another and experienced. I'm not saying the Bengals can't contend this year. They have a lot of great veterans at important positions to lead this team to the playoffs, but a lot of things have to work out for this to happen. Veterans such as Dalton, Green, Eifert, Atkins, Dunlap, Kirkpatrick, Burfict and Iloka are more than capable of leading a very talented group of younger players to the playoffs. One thing is crystal clear to me, this team is so much better off than last years team because they're finally headed in the right direction. Getting rid of Peko, Maualuga, Dansby, etc., will finally allow this team to find out what they have as far as their younger players are concerned. And don't be surprised if Will Clarke has a solid year even if he's relegated to a back-up role. |
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Post by lostwou on May 2, 2017 10:14:16 GMT -5
Hopefully moving Ced back to the left side will make a huge difference. And hopefully fat boy will hold the right.
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Post by 77bengal on May 2, 2017 11:21:13 GMT -5
Hopefully moving Ced back to the left side will make a huge difference. And hopefully fat boy will hold the right. Lots of 'ifs' concerning the o-line and that's not good. They didn't even play good last year WITH Whitworth and Zeitler. I think the current unit is gonna have problems. That's why it's so important to shore up this unit between now and opening day. Adding two more veterans to the unit would help. Not signing C Alex Mack last year during free agency was a big mistake and one that was very obvious. |
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Post by Rodneck on May 4, 2017 17:37:13 GMT -5
Well if they are serious then they will sign a couple O-lineman or make a trade for at least one. Like everyone said the O-line is my biggest concern. Dalton and Mccaron will both be down and on IR with this current line. I have read that this year's draft was weak in O-lineman. I have no idea if that is true or not. Just read a few tidbits from different sports sites that was making that claim. If that is true I guess it is good that the Bengals didn't use early round picks for a O-lineman. It's true. Really weak OL class. No reason to reach for one when there's so much talent at other positions. I think it's also important to note that even if the Bengals fortify their o-line, don't expect this team to come crashing out of the gate early. The Bengals have made a lot of moves and they're going to be relying on a lot of young players. It's going to take a chunk of the season, maybe the whole season and another draft, to get these guys familiar with one another and experienced. I'm not saying the Bengals can't contend this year. They have a lot of great veterans at important positions to lead this team to the playoffs, but a lot of things have to work out for this to happen. Veterans such as Dalton, Green, Eifert, Atkins, Dunlap, Kirkpatrick, Burfict and Iloka are more than capable of leading a very talented group of younger players to the playoffs. One thing is crystal clear to me, this team is so much better off than last years team because they're finally headed in the right direction. Getting rid of Peko, Maualuga, Dansby, etc., will finally allow this team to find out what they have as far as their younger players are concerned. And don't be surprised if Will Clarke has a solid year even if he's relegated to a back-up role. Yeah moving forward and on with it is key. Liked the draft, still have a ways to go. When a team is stagnating I am always for going young, for better or worse you are getting answers and getting closer to contentious. It's an easy strategy to root for than more of the same.. |
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Post by lostwou on May 5, 2017 8:09:49 GMT -5
I think they will be better than we anticipate. I think Mixon will be the difference maker. Jeremy Hill has been a let down. When he does get yardage he fumbles. Mixon could have been in the top 10-15 if not for one off field issue. Also Ross. They won't be able to stack the box on us this year. If they do they will get burned. Our offense has become more dangerous. And getting Billings and Jackson back this year will make our D better.
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Post by 77bengal on May 5, 2017 22:43:38 GMT -5
I think they will be better than we anticipate. I think Mixon will be the difference maker. Jeremy Hill has been a let down. When he does get yardage he fumbles. Mixon could have been in the top 10-15 if not for one off field issue. Also Ross. They won't be able to stack the box on us this year. If they do they will get burned. Our offense has become more dangerous. And getting Billings and Jackson back this year will make our D better. I love your optimism and you could be right. The Bengals are loaded with talent and they have a QB that's playing great and he's in his prime. In today's NFL, that's more than most teams can say. Besides the o-line, I do see a couple of hurdles this team will have to overcome. One, many of the younger players lack experience and two; it's gonna take these guys some time to adjust to one another on the field. Timing and familiarity with one another is key. And don't forget about DT/DE Marcus Hardison. I really liked this guy in college and I was pleased when the Bengals selected him. How high am I on Hardison? He has the ability to lead this team in sacks if given enough playing time. He's that good. And that's saying a lot considering the Bengals employ Dunlap and Atkins. |
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Post by chocowinity on Jun 5, 2017 9:42:52 GMT -5
I think they will be better than we anticipate. I think Mixon will be the difference maker. Jeremy Hill has been a let down. When he does get yardage he fumbles. Mixon could have been in the top 10-15 if not for one off field issue. Also Ross. They won't be able to stack the box on us this year. If they do they will get burned. Our offense has become more dangerous. And getting Billings and Jackson back this year will make our D better. It doesn't look good that Adams Jones is trying to mentor Mixon! www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/top-10-takeaways-from-nfl-otas-thus-far/ar-BBBZtJy?li=BBnba9I#page=2 |
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Post by Rodneck on Jun 15, 2017 14:55:16 GMT -5
I think they will be better than we anticipate. I think Mixon will be the difference maker. Jeremy Hill has been a let down. When he does get yardage he fumbles. Mixon could have been in the top 10-15 if not for one off field issue. Also Ross. They won't be able to stack the box on us this year. If they do they will get burned. Our offense has become more dangerous. And getting Billings and Jackson back this year will make our D better. It doesn't look good that Adams Jones is trying to mentor Mixon! www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/top-10-takeaways-from-nfl-otas-thus-far/ar-BBBZtJy?li=BBnba9I#page=2Just get rid of Jones. It seems black players are always shitty when they know their time is near it's end with a team. That's why I wanted Brandon Phillips gone before this Reds season started. And I love Brandon Phillips. I can't stand Jones. I want him shot out of this city from a Circus cannon. |
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