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Post by Rodneck on Jan 30, 2017 14:28:51 GMT -5
I personally think there is a good chance that we see Lorenzen in the rotation. I have mixed feelings about this too. I love the idea of no completely set closer, and using a few of the guys for two innings or more in the bullpen. Price did this last year, and we saw it in the post season. And yes Rod, I'd certainly like to see this team take a look at Wood and Holland, but only if they are steals and with the mindset of moving them at the deadline. As far as how acquired absolutely. Holland already got too much money and Wood is being looked at as a starter. We know how April is with a 5th starter so we could skip the spot anyway to hide Garrett. Listening to him on Reds weekly the other day I really like him too. He has the stuff and love the mentality. |
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Post by brad on Jan 30, 2017 15:41:39 GMT -5
Greg Holland signed with the Rockies over the weekend. $6M in 2016 plus $1M buyout(so $7M guaranteed) +$3M in incentives. If he pitches in 50 games or finishes 30 games, his option vests to become a $15M player option for 2018. If the option doesn't vest, then 2018 turns into $10M mutual option which contains $8M of incentives. I think that contract is far too rich for us to take a flyer on.
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Post by eric on Feb 2, 2017 18:41:13 GMT -5
If they bring back Arroyo. I'm not sure if I will watch many games. That's stupid. I forgot about your and Yo-Yo's love story! Well. I'm done. |
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Post by Rodneck on Feb 3, 2017 12:34:32 GMT -5
I forgot about your and Yo-Yo's love story! Well. I'm done. Eric it's a minor league deal. I don't see him making the roster bro. |
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Post by FoulBalz on Feb 8, 2017 15:11:19 GMT -5
Homer Bailey had surgery this morning. Surprised? Not me.
That leaves Finnigan, DeScalfani, and retread Feldman. Instead of another retread like Bronson Arroyo I would like to see both Reed and Garrett get a real shot at the beginning of the year.
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Post by Rodneck on Feb 8, 2017 18:07:14 GMT -5
That's just fuckin great....
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Post by Rodneck on Feb 16, 2017 3:40:26 GMT -5
Starting to get excited about the pitching competition for this spring. True the depth has been thinned out for starters but we have young talent. It's very reasonable to think 2 of them could step forward and go. Meaning Reed, Garrett, or Stephenson. Not excited about Arroyo or Adelman. But find the new additions of Bonilla and Ogando interesting because how I don't see them winning starting spots they are young and have lively arms and will push the competition. And if they have good springs and fail in the rotation chase they surely have potential in the bullpen. Which you add the 2 new additions of Storen and Brice with the power arm quartet Brad and I mentioned of Chacin, Guillon, Herget, and Weiss and you have the makings of a very interesting March. Normally I tend to lose focus on who is pitching after 3-4 innings. Not this spring. There will be players I want to see or hear or look up in a box score from innings 1 to 9. Can't say that every year. Clean slate=check. Competition=check. This is the fun of a rebuild in my opinion. And whether you know it or not once the rotation starts pumping out a healthy rate of quality starts we are literally off to the races. I live in anticipation of moments like these!  Few notes. Please post up what you got. www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/mlb/reds/2017/02/15/stephenson-reed-searching-confidence-big-league-success/97949350/m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/216091768/reds-lisalverto-bonilla-has-starting-chance/ |
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Post by clinz on Feb 16, 2017 7:24:19 GMT -5
Starting to get excited about the pitching competition for this spring. True the depth has been thinned out for starters but we have young talent. It's very reasonable to think 2 of them could step forward and go. Meaning Reed, Garrett, or Stephenson. Not excited about Arroyo or Adelman. But find the new additions of Bonilla and Ogando interesting because how I don't see them winning starting spots they are young and have lively arms and will push the competition. And if they have good springs and fail in the rotation chase they surely have potential in the bullpen. Which you add the 2 new additions of Storen and Brice with the power arm quartet Brad and I mentioned of Chacin, Guillon, Herget, and Weiss and you have the makings of a very interesting March. Normally I tend to lose focus on who is pitching after 3-4 innings. Not this spring. There will be players I want to see or hear or look up in a box score from innings 1 to 9. Can't say that every year. Clean slate=check. Competition=check. This is the fun of a rebuild in my opinion. And whether you know it or not once the rotation starts pumping out a healthy rate of quality starts we are literally off to the races. I live in anticipation of moments like these! Few notes. Please post up what you got. www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/mlb/reds/2017/02/15/stephenson-reed-searching-confidence-big-league-success/97949350/m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/216091768/reds-lisalverto-bonilla-has-starting-chance/Don't forget about Castillo the other pitcher in the Straily trade. |
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Post by Rodneck on Feb 16, 2017 16:30:00 GMT -5
Starting to get excited about the pitching competition for this spring. True the depth has been thinned out for starters but we have young talent. It's very reasonable to think 2 of them could step forward and go. Meaning Reed, Garrett, or Stephenson. Not excited about Arroyo or Adelman. But find the new additions of Bonilla and Ogando interesting because how I don't see them winning starting spots they are young and have lively arms and will push the competition. And if they have good springs and fail in the rotation chase they surely have potential in the bullpen. Which you add the 2 new additions of Storen and Brice with the power arm quartet Brad and I mentioned of Chacin, Guillon, Herget, and Weiss and you have the makings of a very interesting March. Normally I tend to lose focus on who is pitching after 3-4 innings. Not this spring. There will be players I want to see or hear or look up in a box score from innings 1 to 9. Can't say that every year. Clean slate=check. Competition=check. This is the fun of a rebuild in my opinion. And whether you know it or not once the rotation starts pumping out a healthy rate of quality starts we are literally off to the races. I live in anticipation of moments like these! Few notes. Please post up what you got. www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/mlb/reds/2017/02/15/stephenson-reed-searching-confidence-big-league-success/97949350/m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/216091768/reds-lisalverto-bonilla-has-starting-chance/Don't forget about Castillo the other pitcher in the Straily trade. Yep good point. We are racking up so many bodies I lost him already! It was because he is actually on the roster! I was looking at the non roster. Here are the rest of the invites non roster. Good to point out Linds. m.reds.mlb.com/cin/roster/nri/ |
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Post by Rodneck on Mar 28, 2017 8:52:55 GMT -5
The last turn through the potential rotation has not been good.
Reed-3.2 IP-10 ER
Adelman-3.1 IP-6 ER
R. Davis-4.2 IP-3 ER(5 total runs)
Stephenson-4 IP-4 ER
Garrett-5 IP-6 ER
Romano-4.2 IP-5 ER(7 total runs)
25.1 IP-34 ER
12.08 ERA
Absolute nightmare and NOT what you want to see the week before the season starts.
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Post by Rodneck on May 25, 2017 10:47:20 GMT -5
This seems to be our biggest focus and rightly so as our biggest weakness. My point of departure is this. View AttachmentWhat is that? It is addition by subtraction. This is right now the corps of our bullpen heading into the season adding up their 2016 statistics(Iglesias, Lorenzen, Storen, Diaz, Wood, and Cingrani). I did take liberties and used Storen's 2015 line as really only his stint with Toronto looks like the outlier. If duplicable this puts us right in the mix for one of the best bullpens in baseball as the top 2 pens had ERA's of 3.35(LAD) and 3.37(WAS). But I know those numbers are short 1 guy and stats go up and down, not to mention health. I would not rest on my laurels but just for identification sake I wanted to point out exactly what we have in the pen right now and what they look like collectively. This is a decent start but far from a finish. Not that it makes much of a difference. But every spring I try to project something and use whatever technique new or old to attempt to do it. I had been curious about this thread in projecting bullpen. Projection:3.37 ERA Actual:3.18 ERA Now we were hoping for a mediocre rotation. I think 4.50. So 5.93 is waaay off. |
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