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Post by 77bengal on Nov 27, 2016 14:12:24 GMT -5
No A.J. Green? No problem. Andy Dalton has connected with at least five different receivers (Boyd, LaFell, Hewitt, Hill, Wright) in the first quarter alone. Maybe others. What this demonstrates is that Andy Dalton looks to Green far too often and isn't doing a good job at distributing the ball. By distributing the ball to more receivers, the Bengals keep defenses from focusing primarily on just one or two receivers thus forcing them to account for all receivers on every play. Distributing the ball also gets a lot more players involved in the offense allowing them to contribute, win or lose. The last thing any player wants is to put a lot of work in preparing themselves to play and not even getting on the field let alone getting touches. Marvin Lewis is notorious for such coaching. Who knows, maybe Green's injury will teach Lewis and company that the team has other players on offense that can contribute, move the ball, make big plays and most importantly, help the team win!
Since we're talking WR's, here's a quick list of the WR's the Bengals can probably nab in round two and later. Curtis Samuel, Ohio State. Isaiah Ford, Virginia Tech. Travis Rudolph, Florida State, and Stacy Coley, Miami Florida. All four of these guys are big playmakers and super fast. Just what the Bengals need.
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Post by 77bengal on Nov 27, 2016 15:19:13 GMT -5
Mike Nugent has to be waived tomorrow. If the Bengals don't waive Nugent by tomorrow (today?), they're sending a terrible message to the rest of the team with that message being: on-field performance doesn't matter.
Nugent was once a great kicker, but his career is over. Bengal Nation should congratulate him for all that he's done for the team and move on. Bringing in a kicker in the upcoming draft is a must.
I'm merely guessing, but I think Lewis is willing to part ways with Nugent but Mike Brown is refusing to do so. It will be interesting to see how this pans out and who is actually in control of the roster. Brown? Tobin? Lewis? We shall see.
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Post by Rodneck on Nov 27, 2016 22:34:19 GMT -5
What I have learned dating back to last season is the goal of the coaches is to be good not great. Competitive but never champions. At the slightest hint of adversity they quit on their own players. Last year's playoff game in hindsight was not just another playoff loss, it was our Little Bighorn. This coaching regime was slaughtered in the wake of that game. Until they are cast off both us and the players are victims. Today's loss mirrored the season=they are playing just good enough to lose simply because of the innate talent. But having no direction they find the way to lose instead of the will to win. It's a nauseating reality.
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Post by Rodneck on Nov 27, 2016 22:38:30 GMT -5
No A.J. Green? No problem. Andy Dalton has connected with at least five different receivers (Boyd, LaFell, Hewitt, Hill, Wright) in the first quarter alone. Maybe others. What this demonstrates is that Andy Dalton looks to Green far too often and isn't doing a good job at distributing the ball. By distributing the ball to more receivers, the Bengals keep defenses from focusing primarily on just one or two receivers thus forcing them to account for all receivers on every play. Distributing the ball also gets a lot more players involved in the offense allowing them to contribute, win or lose. The last thing any player wants is to put a lot of work in preparing themselves to play and not even getting on the field let alone getting touches. Marvin Lewis is notorious for such coaching. Who knows, maybe Green's injury will teach Lewis and company that the team has other players on offense that can contribute, move the ball, make big plays and most importantly, help the team win! Since we're talking WR's, here's a quick list of the WR's the Bengals can probably nab in round two and later. Curtis Samuel, Ohio State. Isaiah Ford, Virginia Tech. Travis Rudolph, Florida State, and Stacy Coley, Miami Florida. All four of these guys are big playmakers and super fast. Just what the Bengals need. Just off the top of the head Boyd and Burkehead looked great to me. And checking down to Hill is something I have wanted to see more of for a while now. It works. The narrow view of gameplan and lack of target distributin has killed us in addition to so many other things. What we don't know if this is on the OC or Dalton alone. Again the talent is in place. Everything else is not. |
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Post by clinz on Nov 28, 2016 12:37:29 GMT -5
To me, every single position needs an upgrade, including coaches. They don't use or know the strength of their own personnel. To keep running out players that don't belong on the field wreaks of stubbornness. It's a disservice to everyone. Admit your mistakes and move on from them. I'm sure Marvin will still be here and Zampeze is in way over his head. Marvin's coaching yesterday was horrendous. 14 years in and still making rookie mistakes.
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Post by J J on Nov 28, 2016 16:41:14 GMT -5
I never bought into the "fire Marvin" stuff.....after yesterday, he deserves it. Declining that penalty and giving the best field goal kicker in the league, a make-able attempt was downright stupid. Then, calling time-out and letting Harbaughs assistance look at the replay and then challenge, ws pretty bone headed also.
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Post by 77bengal on Nov 28, 2016 17:52:51 GMT -5
To clinz and JJ: Welcome to the choir boys! I couldn't agree with both of you more other than the statement that every position needs an upgrade. I understand that nearly every position is lacking in consistency, but if a good coach were to be brought in, a lot of the players that are under-performing would improve immensely. What's wrong is that the players no longer respect Lewis. They're no longer buying into what he's selling. I hope he takes the high road at the end of the season and either resigns or retires.
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Post by 77bengal on Nov 28, 2016 18:00:35 GMT -5
I'm only guessing here; but it appears that Mike Brown is making roster decisions once again. This will only make things worse. Keeping Nugent on the roster wreaks of Brown's foul stench. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's hard for me to fathom that three football men (Brown, Lewis, Tobin) are ALL in favor of keeping Nugent. If that's the case, things are worse than we realize.
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Post by clinz on Nov 28, 2016 20:22:54 GMT -5
To clinz and JJ: Welcome to the choir boys! I couldn't agree with both of you more other than the statement that every position needs an upgrade. I understand that nearly every position is lacking in consistency, but if a good coach were to be brought in, a lot of the players that are under-performing would improve immensely. What's wrong is that the players no longer respect Lewis. They're no longer buying into what he's selling. I hope he takes the high road at the end of the season and either resigns or retires. I agree they have no respect. I said that after the playoff game. Your players wouldn't pull that shit if they respected you. Let's get rid of some of these career coaches and get new faces in here. I'd like to see someone from the outside take over as head coach. |
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Post by J J on Nov 30, 2016 9:55:11 GMT -5
To clinz and JJ: Welcome to the choir boys! I couldn't agree with both of you more other than the statement that every position needs an upgrade. I understand that nearly every position is lacking in consistency, but if a good coach were to be brought in, a lot of the players that are under-performing would improve immensely. What's wrong is that the players no longer respect Lewis. They're no longer buying into what he's selling. I hope he takes the high road at the end of the season and either resigns or retires. I agree they have no respect. I said that after the playoff game. Your players wouldn't pull that shit if they respected you. Let's get rid of some of these career coaches and get new faces in here. I'd like to see someone from the outside take over as head coach. Here in DC, we call that "draining the swamp" : -) |
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Post by clinz on Nov 30, 2016 11:07:36 GMT -5
I'm all for draining the swamp.
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Post by Rodneck on Nov 30, 2016 13:32:01 GMT -5
Looking back at it we worried a few years ago that if Lewis left the strength(at the time) of the draft would leave with him. Now we can see that Tobin is the architect and not Lewis. Once you establish that as reality and you add up;
1)a coach that still hasn't figured out how to manage a game clock in 14 years
2)playing favorites and veterans over more talented players
3)playoff futility
4)and now has lost the belief and respect of his team
This guy is utterly useless and irrelevant to this team. And IMO the organization once again is in question. I remember when we were banging our heads against the wall with playoff futility with our former QB. We got rid of him and drafted a new era of players and have once again found that same reality. Meanwhile our former QB has gone to an organization that gets "It" and has done their due diligence and he is thriving when he was thought to have been well past his prime. In the immediate, the here and now with the above Lewis has to go. Next if the standard operating procedure isn't shaken up, altered, or even radicalized altogether, is it safe to say even with a few new faces, how long will it be before we are back to the drawing board, experiencing the same issues? Being 10 years old when the 1983 season started this is playing out as a lifelong drama. For all of us. Who would have thought that 7 years after the 1983 season would be the last time we see a playoff win? And none in my adult lifetime. I just cannot see how there is perceived conflict with the business model if you bring in the right people that WILL get you across the playoff relevance threshold.
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Post by 77bengal on Nov 30, 2016 23:29:58 GMT -5
I agree they have no respect. I said that after the playoff game. Your players wouldn't pull that shit if they respected you. Let's get rid of some of these career coaches and get new faces in here. I'd like to see someone from the outside take over as head coach. Here in DC, we call that "draining the swamp" : -) Here in Cincy, we call it living in a swamp!  |
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Post by Rodneck on Dec 1, 2016 1:14:29 GMT -5
77 I think both our new avatars say it all about where we are at with Cincy sports! HAHA!!
What the hell is that anyway?
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Post by 77bengal on Dec 1, 2016 23:10:16 GMT -5
77 I think both our new avatars say it all about where we are at with Cincy sports! HAHA!! What the hell is that anyway? Yes they do! Anymore of this shit and my brain may start suffering from Browns Football Syndrome. It's a cat pic that I pulled from an 'ugliest cats' web site which illustrates all the problems our 'cats' have experienced this season. Also, this photo perfectly sums up my thoughts on the way this team is ran. |
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