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Post by 77bengal on Nov 20, 2016 13:27:06 GMT -5
Domata Peko is starting again as is Michael Johnson. If I were the head coach, (which at this point isn't that crazy of an idea; just kidding), Pat Siims would be starting in place of Peko and Will Clarke would be starting in place of Michael Johnson. Lewis cares more about playing his buddies (to hell with we the fans) than doing what's in the best interest of the team. And to add insult to injury, the nimble footed Peko took out Vontaze Burfict. Throw in Zampese's struggles and you have a team in rapid decline. If Lewis had any sense of pride, honor or dignity, he would resign after this season. If he doesn't, and Mike Brown brings him back, this team will continue its decline.
However, there are enough pieces in place to get this team back in the hunt next year if they draft well and sign a quality free agent or two and most importantly, hire a quality head coach. If I were the GM of this team, the two head coaches at the top of my wish list would be Patriots DC Matt Patricia and Patriots OC Josh McDaniels with Patricia being my first choice. Love'em or hate'em, the Patriots and Bill Belichick have built a great system when it comes to building and keeping a quality team intact year after year and Patricia and McDaniels know this system. Throw in the fact that both the Patriot offense and the defense are playing at a high level, you have two great choices in Patricia and McDaniels to succeed Lewis. The only problem with this scenario is Mike Brown. Brown is extremely stubborn and a proven loser when it comes to running an NFL team properly. As long as the Bengals are semi-competitive and making money, he's happy. Winning a Lombardi is far from being one of his main priorities.
It's no secret that the Bengals offensive line is weak and needs to be improved upon during the off-season. But the upcoming draft is weak when it comes to the offensive line so bringing in a quality center or tackle through free agency or by trading McCarron (or Dalton?) should be highly considered. The last thing the Bengals should do is reach for an o-linemen in the first round considering there will be some great defensive players available that they should target such as DE Derek Barnett or S Jamaal Adams. In round two, I'm hoping that LB Raekwon McMillan is still available but HB/WR Curtis Samuel would be a great pick. And lastly, Mike Nugent's career appears to be over.
Until then, enjoy the circus!
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Post by 77bengal on Nov 20, 2016 14:33:03 GMT -5
Oh, and before I forget, Marvin Lewis still doesn't know how to use the game clock. Most high school coaches do a better job at using the game clock. You can't make this stuff up.
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Post by 77bengal on Nov 20, 2016 16:07:10 GMT -5
The Bills LDE was off-sides but T Eric Winston was called for a false start instead. Did Lewis address the officals? Take up for his player? You kiddin'? Not at all. Instead, he yells to the offense, "Lets go"! Lewis would make a better cheerleader than a coach. What a joke!
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Post by Rodneck on Nov 20, 2016 16:15:03 GMT -5
Edited the title because I was ready to add one as well. Their season is done and ours is postponed indefinitely. I'm done watching or thinking about them for THIS season.
Come next April if Marvin Lewis is still coaching I don't want to talk about the draft.
Come next August I don't want to talk about the possibilities.
I'll watch in September because I am a Cincy boy and all I want to do is see them win. Everything else in between to me is bullshit. If BIG changes AREN'T made then this team is a perennial pretender even if they continue on as nearly perennial contenders.
The ball is in their court...
Because this season is about as mismanaged, half assed, gutless, and passionless as it gets.
I'm done....
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Post by 77bengal on Nov 20, 2016 22:29:59 GMT -5
The season is done. It's toast and I've known this for the last few weeks. In my opinion, Lewis and company avoided drafting players at certain positions in order to avoid competition for established veterans. I think you guys know who I mean. Anyway, when a team drafts around certain positions year after year, it eventually catches up to them and the bottom falls out. That's what we're witnessing. The Bengals have also been credited with having some great drafts as of late. That's not true. This is a team that added two tackles in last years draft in rounds one and two and they have one of the worse o-lines in the league. This is a team that keeps many of it's high draft picks off the field until season two or three. This is a team that suffers more major injuries than any team in the league yet nothing is done. "It's just bad luck", if you are to believe Lewis, but I sense some of these injuries could've been prevented. This is a team that has a clueless owner and a puppet as its head coach. And lastly, this is a team that doesn't give a damn about its fans. According to ownership, the fans don't know anything. They should be ignored because we, ownership and the coaches, know best and we have the record that backs that up. They're delusional.
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Post by lostwou on Nov 21, 2016 6:02:32 GMT -5
Well, I saw Jethro Bodine on the ground a lot. Green and Bernard out for season. Yep season is done. As usual terrible clock management. Didn't learn their lesson with Nugent last year. No down field threat to replace green. Would like to see Lewis fired, but who would they replace him with? OL coach needs to go as well. Do we now have to be thinking replacement for Bernard? Torn acl. Not taking Michael Thomas in draft looking to be mistake but hey whats new. I will keep watching and supporting. I will support our players but not coaches. What else is there to say? Silver lining? High draft pick.
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Post by Rodneck on Nov 21, 2016 13:55:12 GMT -5
These injuries best not become the ready make rationalization of ill fortune. This season has been done a while. Since reaching 2-2 we went 1-4-1. Yesterday's injuries didn't undo that woeful stretch. Change is necessary. Hell we started seeing it late last season as soon as we experienced some adversity and before Dalton got hurt. It cost us a damned message board and created divide among fans. Jesus. I don't think Marvin believes anymore. He wears it on his sleeve and I think he lost the team before this season even started. It's time for a big change. Mediocrity cannot be our ceiling. And change from without.
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Post by 77bengal on Nov 21, 2016 15:46:52 GMT -5
Well, I saw Jethro Bodine on the ground a lot. Green and Bernard out for season. Yep season is done. As usual terrible clock management. Didn't learn their lesson with Nugent last year. No down field threat to replace green. Would like to see Lewis fired, but who would they replace him with? OL coach needs to go as well. Do we now have to be thinking replacement for Bernard? Torn acl. Not taking Michael Thomas in draft looking to be mistake but hey whats new. I will keep watching and supporting. I will support our players but not coaches. What else is there to say? Silver lining? High draft pick. Bodine was wallowing around on the field like a wounded walrus. But what's really alarming is that Boling and Zeitler haven't been that much better. The play of every o-linemen on this squad has declined which is an indication that the coaches have lost the team. They no longer believe in what the coaches are selling. Gio doesn't deserve this. He's played hard and done a good job when called on. He should've been the teams starter from day one considering the struggles of Jeremy Hill. Now he's gone for the season. Fournette? |
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Post by 77bengal on Nov 21, 2016 21:21:49 GMT -5
As you guys probably know, Marvin Lewis has decided to keep K Mike Nugent on the roster. There isn't another team in the NFL that would retain Nugent after yesterdays disaster. Keeping Nugent after what's been a terrible season for him (including the preseason), represents exactly what's wrong in Cincy. In my opinion, Lewis and Brown are once again sticking it to the fans of Cincy by keeping Nugent. It's as if they enjoy pissing off Bengals Nation. Brown and Lewis better wake up soon, because they're chasing fans off. The ice is melting and they have no idea they're standing in the middle of a lake.
The good news is this: There will be several good K's available in the upcoming draft. The bad news? Mike Brown will probably reward Nugent with a five year extension. Brown is capable of anything because he likes to rub his ineptitude in the face of Bengal fans worldwide as if his football knowledge is far superior to any fans knowledge. Sorry Mike, t's not.
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Post by lostwou on Nov 22, 2016 5:55:58 GMT -5
JUst read AJ will be back sometime this season. That's good news. Just a strain no surgery. Fournette? That would be awesome. But we need an OL.
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Post by J J on Nov 22, 2016 10:21:33 GMT -5
The season is done. It's toast and I've known this for the last few weeks. In my opinion, Lewis and company avoided drafting players at certain positions in order to avoid competition for established veterans. I think you guys know who I mean. Anyway, when a team drafts around certain positions year after year, it eventually catches up to them and the bottom falls out. That's what we're witnessing. The Bengals have also been credited with having some great drafts as of late. That's not true. This is a team that added two tackles in last years draft in rounds one and two and they have one of the worse o-lines in the league. This is a team that keeps many of it's high draft picks off the field until season two or three. This is a team that suffers more major injuries than any team in the league yet nothing is done. "It's just bad luck", if you are to believe Lewis, but I sense some of these injuries could've been prevented. This is a team that has a clueless owner and a puppet as its head coach. And lastly, this is a team that doesn't give a damn about its fans. According to ownership, the fans don't know anything. They should be ignored because we, ownership and the coaches, know best and we have the record that backs that up. They're delusional. Ozzie Newsome strategy...... draft the best player on your board, regardless of the positions players needed. Get the best football player available!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by 77bengal on Nov 22, 2016 16:08:38 GMT -5
The season is done. It's toast and I've known this for the last few weeks. In my opinion, Lewis and company avoided drafting players at certain positions in order to avoid competition for established veterans. I think you guys know who I mean. Anyway, when a team drafts around certain positions year after year, it eventually catches up to them and the bottom falls out. That's what we're witnessing. The Bengals have also been credited with having some great drafts as of late. That's not true. This is a team that added two tackles in last years draft in rounds one and two and they have one of the worse o-lines in the league. This is a team that keeps many of it's high draft picks off the field until season two or three. This is a team that suffers more major injuries than any team in the league yet nothing is done. "It's just bad luck", if you are to believe Lewis, but I sense some of these injuries could've been prevented. This is a team that has a clueless owner and a puppet as its head coach. And lastly, this is a team that doesn't give a damn about its fans. According to ownership, the fans don't know anything. They should be ignored because we, ownership and the coaches, know best and we have the record that backs that up. They're delusional. Ozzie Newsome strategy...... draft the best player on your board, regardless of the positions players needed. Get the best football player available!!!!!!!!!!!! I agree, but that's not the way it's done in Cincy JJ. Ownership/coaches play favorites when drafting, determining starters, etc. I'm not piling on when I state that Marvin Lewis is a mentally weak coach. He has no backbone and thus he's unable to make tough decisions. |
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Post by 77bengal on Nov 22, 2016 16:51:10 GMT -5
JUst read AJ will be back sometime this season. That's good news. Just a strain no surgery. Fournette? That would be awesome. But we need an OL. The Bengals would pick sixth if the draft were held today and I don't see that position changing that much between now and the end of the season. Another words, Fournette should be available when the Bengals pick. The Bengals do need to add one or two quality OL during the off-season, but the draft may not be the place to garner such talent because this is a weak draft at all o-line positions. Free agency may be the teams best option, but the later rounds should have some talent to consider such as OG Billy Price out of OSU. Personally, I don't think the OL is being coached properly. The team doesn't seem to have a clear idea of how and where to play OT Jake Fisher. Boiling and Zeitler aren't playing as well as they did just last season. Somethings not right up front. Bringing in a quality C such as Pat Elflein through the draft is a possibility but trading McCarron for a C plus a draft pick may also be a good move. Bodine just isn't getting the job done on a consistent basis. In round one the Bengals have to strongly consider DE Derek Barnett, S Jamal Adams, ILB Rueben Foster, OLB/Edge Tim Williams and RB Leonard Fournette just to name a few. All of these guys are difference makers at positions where the Bengals desperately need an upgrade. Jabrill Peppers is the wild card, but personally, I would avoid drafting him. Simply put, Jabrill Peppers has NEVER intercepted a pass in his entire collegiate career which makes him a risky pick for a team that desperately needs a playmaker. Barnett does it all. He plays the run well, is great at rushing the passer, strips the ball, intercepts the ball and just about every other thing a DE is capable of doing. Adams makes plays all over the field whether it be in an offenses backfield or picking off a pass downfield. He too does it all. Foster has the ability to make the whole defense better and is a team leader. Williams may be the best pure pass rusher in the entire draft and if Fournette is the next Adrian Petersen, how can the Bengals not bring him in? If the Bengals fire Marvin Lewis and bring in a quality coaching staff along with drafting smart and bringing in a quality free agent, this team has enough talent to win the AFC North next season and be right back in the Superbowl hunt. Will Mike Brown make these common sense changes? Nope. He's too busy counting his cash and selling we Bengal fans short. |
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Post by 77bengal on Nov 22, 2016 16:57:12 GMT -5
And I'm changing my avatar. This years team is a far cry away from being the team they were last year. My new avatar is great and it will be a much better representation of this years squad. Signing out. Post to all of you later and have a great Thanksgiving. -77
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Post by Rodneck on Nov 23, 2016 0:48:16 GMT -5
JUst read AJ will be back sometime this season. That's good news. Just a strain no surgery. Fournette? That would be awesome. But we need an OL. The Bengals would pick sixth if the draft were held today and I don't see that position changing that much between now and the end of the season. Another words, Fournette should be available when the Bengals pick. The Bengals do need to add one or two quality OL during the off-season, but the draft may not be the place to garner such talent because this is a weak draft at all o-line positions. Free agency may be the teams best option, but the later rounds should have some talent to consider such as OG Billy Price out of OSU. Personally, I don't think the OL is being coached properly. The team doesn't seem to have a clear idea of how and where to play OT Jake Fisher. Boiling and Zeitler aren't playing as well as they did just last season. Somethings not right up front. Bringing in a quality C such as Pat Elflein through the draft is a possibility but trading McCarron for a C plus a draft pick may also be a good move. Bodine just isn't getting the job done on a consistent basis. In round one the Bengals have to strongly consider DE Derek Barnett, S Jamal Adams, ILB Rueben Foster, OLB/Edge Tim Williams and RB Leonard Fournette just to name a few. All of these guys are difference makers at positions where the Bengals desperately need an upgrade. Jabrill Peppers is the wild card, but personally, I would avoid drafting him. Simply put, Jabrill Peppers has NEVER intercepted a pass in his entire collegiate career which makes him a risky pick for a team that desperately needs a playmaker. Barnett does it all. He plays the run well, is great at rushing the passer, strips the ball, intercepts the ball and just about every other thing a DE is capable of doing. Adams makes plays all over the field whether it be in an offenses backfield or picking off a pass downfield. He too does it all. Foster has the ability to make the whole defense better and is a team leader. Williams may be the best pure pass rusher in the entire draft and if Fournette is the next Adrian Petersen, how can the Bengals not bring him in? If the Bengals fire Marvin Lewis and bring in a quality coaching staff along with drafting smart and bringing in a quality free agent, this team has enough talent to win the AFC North next season and be right back in the Superbowl hunt. Will Mike Brown make these common sense changes? Nope. He's too busy counting his cash and selling we Bengal fans short. Bottom paragraph is what has me concerned as well. It's sad man. |
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