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Post by lostwou on Feb 27, 2016 11:23:46 GMT -5
Will Fuller ran the fastest 40 at 4.32. He looked pretty good today. I figured he would run one the fastest times thought coleman may run faster but he didn't run. His numbers should move him into the 1st rd . Also showed pretty good hands. Wouldn't mind seeing him and pharaoh Cooper in stripes.
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Feb 27, 2016 11:44:51 GMT -5
Post by 77bengal on Feb 27, 2016 11:44:51 GMT -5
Will Fuller ran the fastest 40 at 4.32. He looked pretty good today. I figured he would run one the fastest times thought coleman may run faster but he didn't run. His numbers should move him into the 1st rd . Also showed pretty good hands. Wouldn't mind seeing him and pharaoh Cooper in stripes. I like your thinking. But as a duo, I would rather see Fuller teamed with Rashard Higgins.
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Post by lostwou on Feb 27, 2016 13:43:26 GMT -5
sterling shepard
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Feb 27, 2016 17:04:25 GMT -5
Post by 77bengal on Feb 27, 2016 17:04:25 GMT -5
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Post by lostwou on Feb 28, 2016 7:13:22 GMT -5
I watched most all the combine. These receivers were slow. Depth at WR position obviously isn't as deep as 1st thought. Hopefully Coleman will run in his proday. If he does well you only have 2 speed WRs in Fuller and Coleman.
Bengals.com just confirmed Sanu said hes not coming back. I'm hoping Treadwell's stock doesn't fall and he is the 1st one of the board. He is productive on the field but his combine numbers weren't good. His broad jump and high jump were below average. He didn't run the 40 but hes not expected to do well there either. If Fuller or Coleman still on board they should draft one of them. If not after that then in the 2nd you would be looking at one of the two Ohio state guys in Braxton Miller and Thomas.
Bengals website pretty much tipped their hand a little Making it sound as if they will look to WR and CB in 1st two rds. Which I stated early they might take a CB in rd 1. Since they feel draft is deep in CBs and DL, it could be cemented a WR rd 1 especially if they can't sign M Jones. And this imo would be best especially if Fuller or Coleman is sitting there.
As I stated early I feel the draft is deep at DT. Apparently they think so too. They feel they can get RD1 talent in the 3rd. I believe so too. Should be interesting. But they need to get busy on getting as many of our guys signed as they can.
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Feb 28, 2016 18:12:06 GMT -5
Post by 77bengal on Feb 28, 2016 18:12:06 GMT -5
I watched most all the combine. These receivers were slow. Depth at WR position obviously isn't as deep as 1st thought. Hopefully Coleman will run in his proday. If he does well you only have 2 speed WRs in Fuller and Coleman. Bengals.com just confirmed Sanu said hes not coming back. I'm hoping Treadwell's stock doesn't fall and he is the 1st one of the board. He is productive on the field but his combine numbers weren't good. His broad jump and high jump were below average. He didn't run the 40 but hes not expected to do well there either. If Fuller or Coleman still on board they should draft one of them. If not after that then in the 2nd you would be looking at one of the two Ohio state guys in Braxton Miller and Thomas. Bengals website pretty much tipped their hand a little Making it sound as if they will look to WR and CB in 1st two rds. Which I stated early they might take a CB in rd 1. Since they feel draft is deep in CBs and DL, it could be cemented a WR rd 1 especially if they can't sign M Jones. And this imo would be best especially if Fuller or Coleman is sitting there. As I stated early I feel the draft is deep at DT. Apparently they think so too. They feel they can get RD1 talent in the 3rd. I believe so too. Should be interesting. But they need to get busy on getting as many of our guys signed as they can. Good post that reflects my thoughts and previous posts concerning this years WR class. Many football talking heads have stated that this is a strong WR class which I've argued against for some time now. This is a weak WR class, especially at the top, with very little speed. However, there's a lot of mid-round talent at this position and this is one of the reasons that I think it may be wise of the Bengals to wait until after round one before selecting two to three WRs. Don't take this the wrong way, I like Corey Coleman and Will Fuller and either one would be a welcome addition to the team, but in most draft classes these guys wouldn't be considered until round two. So, is it wise to draft a round two caliber WR in round one while passing on a stud DL or S? That's the question the Bengals have to answer as things stand right now. Personally, I'm leaning towards the drafting of a DT in round one followed by a WR or a S in round two and here's why. WRs Sterling Shepard, Rashard Higgins, Pharoh Cooper, Malcom Mitchell, Leonte Caroo, Braxton Miller, Kolby LIstenbee, Tajae Sharpe, Demarcus Robinson, Aaron Burbridge, Geronimo Allison, Jalin Marshall, etc., etc., should all be available in round two through round seven. Then there's MAC WRs Roger Lewis, Daniel Braverman, and Jordan Williams that have shown promise and should be available in round three through round seven. More than likely, some of these WRs and some others that I haven't listed will turn out to be better pros than Coleman and/or Fuller. And it's not like Coleman and Fuller don't have their flaws. Coleman is short which is gonna affect the QBs ability to get him the ball at times and Fuller has what I consider to be a major flaw: he's not a natural 'plucker' of the football. Too many times Fuller 'fights' the football causing him to drop quite a few passes. This flaw is fixable, which is the good news, but it does go to demonstrate that Fuller is a tad overrated.
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Post by lostwou on Feb 29, 2016 8:15:54 GMT -5
Just read Seahawks bengals and Rams have interest in Braxton Miller. They had him clocked faster than the official time. Official time was 4.5. But they had him clocked between 4.38 and 4.43. He would be a good slot guy. Hes a 2nd rd imo. Don't know that I would take him in 1st. He could be a real steal don't get me wrong but hes still raw. Only played receiver a year.
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Post by 77bengal on Feb 29, 2016 16:47:46 GMT -5
Just read Seahawks bengals and Rams have interest in Braxton Miller. They had him clocked faster than the official time. Official time was 4.5. But they had him clocked between 4.38 and 4.43. He would be a good slot guy. Hes a 2nd rd imo. Don't know that I would take him in 1st. He could be a real steal don't get me wrong but hes still raw. Only played receiver a year. I agree. Miller is quick in the open field and is a big play waiting to happen. Athletically, he may be at the top of this draft class. This is why he's been able to transition to receiver so easily. Like you posted, he's raw, but the upside is intriguing. However, I wouldn't consider him until round two.
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Feb 29, 2016 17:31:05 GMT -5
Post by 77bengal on Feb 29, 2016 17:31:05 GMT -5
I can't believe I didn't list this guy: WR Tyler Boyd of Pittsburgh. Boyd is slightly underrated in my opinion and would make a nice round two pick. He's pro ready and is strong in all phases of the WR position. Boyd will probably turn out to be one of the best WRs in this class if he's mentally matured.
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Post by lostwou on Mar 1, 2016 6:50:53 GMT -5
Boyd ran a 4.58. Slow. He was 24th out of 37 WRs. We need someone faster. He looks more like 3rd rd at best. He can be covered by a LB with that kind of speed.
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Post by lostwou on Mar 1, 2016 7:14:57 GMT -5
Combine interviews. Mackensie Alexander CB Clemson. Corey Coleman WR Baylor, Myles Killibrew S Southern Utah. Killibrew is a 3rd rd prospect but a good one. Corey Coleman wont make it out of 1st rd so apparently they are considering a 1st rd WR. Alexander anywhere from 2nd to 3rd.
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Mar 1, 2016 17:34:22 GMT -5
Post by 77bengal on Mar 1, 2016 17:34:22 GMT -5
Boyd ran a 4.58. Slow. He was 24th out of 37 WRs. We need someone faster. He looks more like 3rd rd at best. He can be covered by a LB with that kind of speed. Almost all of the WRs in this class are slow and that's not good considering the Bengals need speed at this position. This is why it may be necessary for them to sign a FA WR. But if they go after Marvin Jones with a lucrative contract and are able to keep him as reports suggest, they can skip the WR position in round one and focus on one of the other positions that need to be upgraded instead and draft a speedy WR like Koby Listenbee in round three or four. Boyd didn't run that well at the combine, but that doesn't mean he won't be effective in the league. Boyd has good hands, runs good routes and had good production. (Notice I didn't use the word 'great'.) Another words, Boyd may be able to make up for his lack of speed by being solid in all the other aspects of playing WR. And this may be the case for other WRs in this draft class so I don't think it's wise to get too bogged down on these numbers. Game speed is a whole other aspect that can't be calculated.
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