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Post by Rodneck on Jan 26, 2017 1:35:00 GMT -5
Channel 5 reporting Marvin Lewis asking for extension.
This ain't no rest home. WTF?
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Post by clinz on Jan 26, 2017 8:48:04 GMT -5
Channel 5 reporting Marvin Lewis asking for extension. This ain't no rest home. WTF? Asking and getting are two different things. Well at least I hope so. 😬
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Post by lostwou on Jan 27, 2017 8:09:45 GMT -5
Lewis says things will be vastly different in 2017. How? Has her learned how to manage a clock? Has he learned how to cut loose dead weight? Peko, Malaluga, Bodine? When you look at this team, he has let too many old and average players stick around for too long. And you can't replace them all thru the draft. And we know they only pick up maybe one washed up aging player in FA. Zampezee hasn't been cut loose when we know hes horrible. He let Nugent stay around long enough to be a major reason why we lost games.
Now, on the flip side. Who would MB replace him with? The thought is scarey. I give kudo's to ML for getting a team as horrible as they were before he came, to where they are now. But he has taken this team as far as he can. I don't believe he has what it takes anymore to get the most out of his players. We need a coach with more fire.
Lets be realistic though. If ML were fired, most likely Zamp would follow. Would we be looking at a total rehaul? A rebuilding stage? On the other hand, how different would ML approach really be? 3 things we know won't change. His clock management, his ability to fire up himself let alone the players, and keeping players too long.
So all this being said, how would we be better off? If MB made better decisions himself, it would be an easy choice. Fire Lewis. But what concerns me is that the same thing would happen when the Reds fired Dusty Baker.
Its messed up your damned if you do and damned if you don't. Any thoughts on this? I know this post sounds all over the place but that's where this team is. So I'd be interested to hear everyones comments. 77 I know you have an opinion.
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Post by Rodneck on Jan 27, 2017 10:31:55 GMT -5
Lost the Reds spiraled out of control because they did not draft and develop well and they didn't flip players with impending free agency til their value was severely diminished. We have 2/3 of that right now WITH Lewis here. I think we draft well enough but they don't develop when getting red shirted and Marvin with his love of over the hill vets stunts their growth. It's funny because I just said last week that ML actually uses the NFL draft like the MLB draft where good players might not appear for a few years. It's stupid. His mediocrity has to go. If your 3rd paragraph sentence were to come true then we really are in a position to where until Mike Brown is gone we have no chance to win big. The guy simply lacks vision. It would be too radical of an idea for him to go with a young and up and coming college coach and let him implement his own vision. After many of you convinced me about losing Dalton I am ready for a partial overhaul. You instill McCarron at QB, lose veteran dead weight, and let a new coach fill in the blanks. This is what I'd like to see. This is something I could get behind wholeheartedly. Feel like we are just spinning wheels far from greatness as is.
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Post by lostwou on Jan 27, 2017 15:45:55 GMT -5
Lost the Reds spiraled out of control because they did not draft and develop well and they didn't flip players with impending free agency til their value was severely diminished. We have 2/3 of that right now WITH Lewis here. I think we draft well enough but they don't develop when getting red shirted and Marvin with his love of over the hill vets stunts their growth. It's funny because I just said last week that ML actually uses the NFL draft like the MLB draft where good players might not appear for a few years. It's stupid. His mediocrity has to go. If your 3rd paragraph sentence were to come true then we really are in a position to where until Mike Brown is gone we have no chance to win big. The guy simply lacks vision. It would be too radical of an idea for him to go with a young and up and coming college coach and let him implement his own vision. After many of you convinced me about losing Dalton I am ready for a partial overhaul. You instill McCarron at QB, lose veteran dead weight, and let a new coach fill in the blanks. This is what I'd like to see. This is something I could get behind wholeheartedly. Feel like we are just spinning wheels far from greatness as is.
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Post by lostwou on Jan 27, 2017 15:50:12 GMT -5
I agree Rod. We know what we have with who we have which isn't enough. The goal is a Superbowl if we can't reach that goal with ML then an overhaul is the smart choice.
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Post by chocowinity on Jan 29, 2017 13:59:31 GMT -5
There are a lot of things this team needs. I am convinced that ML is here to stay another year. We need a FA center and to draft a C/G in later rounds. We need to resign Burkhead and Whitlock. Whit has at least one more good year and maybe two left in him. We also need another LB. FA or draft. Zietler needs to be signed or another experienced FA. It is troublesome to ask MB to sign FA’s but he should at least sign two. I don’t think he will open the purse strings so they will be average FA’s. You can look at what Mack and Sanu have done for the Atlanta Falcons. It looks like another developing year to me.
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Post by chocowinity on Feb 9, 2017 11:16:22 GMT -5
The Bengals are rated 26th out of 32 teams in this poll. Here is what they have to say about the Bengals. Cincinnati's five-year streak of postseason appearances is over, and it's difficult to see a path toward an immediate return. Continued problems along the offensive line could further inhibit Andy Dalton after he took a step back this season. A.J. Green needs assistance in the passing game, and Adam Jones' arrest could alter the offseason plans for the defense. This is the site: www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/rebuild-rankings-whos-in-top-shape-for-17/ar-BBxTAKP?li=BBnba9I#page=1
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Post by Rodneck on Feb 9, 2017 17:06:17 GMT -5
I just think that whatever happened during and after that last playoff game Marvin lost the team and got even worse as a coach. He lost his own confidence and the team followed suit IMO. I don't see it getting better with a draft and offseason. Once it gets warm I'm tabling Bengals thoughts til about a week before the 1st season game. That's where I'm at...
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Post by chocowinity on Feb 22, 2017 10:01:19 GMT -5
The Bengals have $43.2B to spend. They have three key FA. Dre, Zeitler, and Whitlock. They must sign Dre with all the Adams problems and at least Whitlock or Zeitler. Will they sign Whit or Z? If they don't will they sign a FA OL? I feel they will sign Burkhead. Now the question is how much money is left if they sign all four? Will they have enough to sign another OL? If they do then Defense will be the players they Draft.
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Post by lostwou on Feb 23, 2017 9:43:54 GMT -5
Defense would be the focus. still need a WR also. Possibly with Bernard injured and Hill not playing well they might grab the RB if hes there and the top DEs are gone.
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Post by 77bengal on Mar 1, 2017 23:53:30 GMT -5
I've been gone for awhile because I bought a new MacBook Pro, an iPhone, an external Apple disk drive and an Epson printer. I was tired of battling computers, phones and programs (iTunes) that weren't compatible with one another. Problem solved. I can now enjoy AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles and The Beach Boys wherever and whenever I want. Technology - isn't it grand? Needless to say, I've been busy getting everything figured out along with getting all of my previous bookmarks saved including this site. Anyway, I'm back, so lets get down to business.
Marvin Lewis and Mike Brown suck once again. How's that for getting down to business? Lewis has had 15 years to get it right but he's still searching for playoff victory number one. Stephen A. Smith's criticism of Lewis is right on target and I hope he doesn't let up.
Like the town drunk, Brown has fallen off the wagon yet again. After coaxing Lewis to come back as the teams head coach with the promise of spending more money to retain the teams good players, Brown is starting to revert back to his old skinflint ways which may lead to the departures of Kevin Zeitler and Dre Kirkpatrick. Signing both of these guys is a no-brainer and the Bengals have more than enough cap space/money to make it happen. And to make matters worse, rumors are circulating that the team wants to re-up with Domata Peko. Mike Brown is truly clueless and it's getting to the point where the league may have to step in and give Brown an ultimatum: Either run this team like a professional instead of like Ebenezer Scrooge or you're out.
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Post by Rodneck on Mar 9, 2017 15:53:52 GMT -5
I've been gone for awhile because I bought a new MacBook Pro, an iPhone, an external Apple disk drive and an Epson printer. I was tired of battling computers, phones and programs (iTunes) that weren't compatible with one another. Problem solved. I can now enjoy AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles and The Beach Boys wherever and whenever I want. Technology - isn't it grand? Needless to say, I've been busy getting everything figured out along with getting all of my previous bookmarks saved including this site. Anyway, I'm back, so lets get down to business. Marvin Lewis and Mike Brown suck once again. How's that for getting down to business? Lewis has had 15 years to get it right but he's still searching for playoff victory number one. Stephen A. Smith's criticism of Lewis is right on target and I hope he doesn't let up. Like the town drunk, Brown has fallen off the wagon yet again. After coaxing Lewis to come back as the teams head coach with the promise of spending more money to retain the teams good players, Brown is starting to revert back to his old skinflint ways which may lead to the departures of Kevin Zeitler and Dre Kirkpatrick. Signing both of these guys is a no-brainer and the Bengals have more than enough cap space/money to make it happen. And to make matters worse, rumors are circulating that the team wants to re-up with Domata Peko. Mike Brown is truly clueless and it's getting to point where the league may have to step in and give Brown an ultimatum: Either run this team like a professional instead of like Ebenezer Scrooge or your out. I still love my AC/DC and Led Zeppelin! Must have in an age where the feelgood songs feel alien! Technology is great. Good to see you got your stuff up to snuff. I am typing from my new laptop and drinking a beer with the mild air rolling in! The freedom of moving around is awesome. The freedom of good stuff is better! Despite my general pessimism of this team I am still interested in the draft. It is the only thing that could rescue me from "Fuck the Bengals", an ever increasing reality with their self chosen path to mediocrity. You are my go to guy so I will saddle up and ride with you and cross fingers we do some good things!
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Post by 77bengal on Mar 10, 2017 0:07:53 GMT -5
I'll be 88 years old and still be listening to my AC/DC. Led and Hendrix as well. I knew it was time to upgrade my tech when I realized that the post office was becoming my 'go to' source for receiving and sending info. I don't know if saddling up with me is such a good idea Rod. With Lewis and Brown at the helm, there's no telling what would happen. The link below says it all.
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